TD Jakes & Noel Jones Craziness  

The following are my thoughts on these crazy guys approach to theology.  We need to pay close attention to what these guys teach concerning the word of God.  Home Page


        "Jakes & Jones, Nothing But Dry Bones"
                                                                 Written & Edited
                                            By Pastor John E. Coleman AA, BA, MA

 The following is an article that I wrote a while back. I am in the process of editing some of my original work and placing it on this site in order that you the serious searcher of God's word might be able to read up and make some serious changes in your Christian experience. Noel Jones is a local minister here in the Los Angeles area. he has purchased a large facility in South Los Angeles and frequents BET (Black Entertainment Television). A while back these two men T. D. Jakes and Noel Jones came together and had a conversation on "40" (TBN) The trinity Broadcasting network. Both men entertained the masses by displaying a strange communicative process that I became aware of as I watched. I realize that it is going to take a while for you to read this article. Good. We need to read more.

For the past hour I have been surfing the Internet. Most of my time is spent as I research of new Christian web sites. As I read through many of the new age religions I could not help but see that many people have polluted the true message that comes from the bible. I was not only surprised at what I saw, I was also amazed at the lengths that these people have taken in spending money as they communicated their false views of Christianity.
While surfing the web, someone called me on the ministry phone and ask me to tune into BET. (Black Entertainment Television) To my surprise and disgust I witnessed Noel Jones; a local preacher in Los Angeles; and T.D. Jakes the teacher of the Potters House Church in Dallas Texas. These two men were providing for the viewing audience a new age positive thought technique that proposed the idea that Christians could seek fulfillment by means of self help. I could not believe what I was hearing and seeing. These two men were attempting to mix into Christianity a blend of secular holistic religion; a form of false teaching that I am very familiar with.

Now I did not expect the TV host to react to Jakes and Jones communication with a Godly answer but I did ask myself this question, "could and would the church of Jesus Christ pick up this false teaching?" What would the answer be from those of us that profess true biblical Christianity? Would we be bold enough to speak a word in defense of what the bible says about such teachings from these so called men of God?
But there is a greater question. Could or would the average Pastor in the inner city, or that Pastor in the quiet suburbs be able, or yet willing to challenge these men? The future of Christianity rest upon the shoulders of serious saints that must be willing to give the correct answer in a world full of foolish ideas.

I realize that most unsaved people are not interested in this conversation. But I would be willing to admit that the non Christian would have more success arguing against what Jakes and Jones profess, in that intelligent non-believers realize that there is no God in self help programs.
If one is truly able to find within themselves these smart ideas, this way to guarantee financial success or success in every endeavor of their lives; what need is there for God? Would it not be safe to say that if one is able to produce all of these positive effects; which I might add that Jakes and Jones seem to manifest by the rich lifestyles that both preachers display every time they appear on a live forum, could one imply that the church ought to receive the same benefits? By the way, have you seen their homes, cars and the other things that accompany this new age of church thinkers as they process the minds of their followers? Indeed, these are the benefits of positive confession.

But if one does not know the difference between the right and the wrong when the question of correct doctrinal teachings arise, what must one do?
Lets leave those men alone for a minute. I would like to focus on your reaction to my words. Allow me to stimulate the discussion with a few important questions. I would hope and pray that these questions causes many of the readers of this forum to come to a state of seriousness about the Christian faith. I will premise these questions by stating that Jakes and Jones deny the faith by their venture into "new age" practices as a vital part of their Christian experience.

Question # 1 Do you know what you are listening to when you listen to people like Jakes and Jones? I do. I listened to what is called "New Age Inner Works:"
"New Age Inner Works involves the turning inward to see the "wisdom" of alleged inner guides, "sanctified" or empowered imagination, the power of the unconscious mind. These concepts are at times from Jungian psychology in particular they are employed in this New Age Inner Works."

How Does This Work?:
"For New Agers, every person has a divine "inner core" or "higher self" that can be contacted by the methods (meditation, visualization, dream work, yoga, Jungian active imagination, shaministic practice and so on) This inner core is said to be a reservoir of wisdom and information on any number of subjects."  Taken from the Encyclopedia of New Age Beliefs: Pg.449

Question # 2 How do you know for certain that these methods work? Do others that profess Christianity seek to practice these satanic self help methodologies? First of all; the scientific community discredits these practices as a valid means of knowing anything about reality. Secondly; the true Christian community uses the scriptures to validate life's experience. The method and means that these tricksters use is nothing less than psychic development or some other strange form of spiritism.

Question # 3 Why are these techniques so successful as well as popular in the church today? Why are they so popular in communities where the poor and needy may be inclined to respond with overwhelming affirmation? Unless you read up on the subject matter, or have attended institutions of higher learning which has as a part of its academic programs courses in Psychology, Philosophy, or the Humanities; one would be more inclined to believe the report if they have never heard about it before. Spiritism can be cloaked or masked as the proponent used neutral categories. Let me give you an example; "You must be able to reach deep into your inner self to capture all of the good that God has given you, you can not attain this without work, and tenacity."

These various techniques can be later defined as human potential. This new thought has over taken the church in that Christians do not believe in trust, dependence, or reliance on God as in the past when Christians sought to give reason for their experiences. We have grabbed after, and hold tightly to the artificial. Jakes and Jones are excellent examples of persons that sell their fantasy land Christianity. The problem that I have is not Jakes and Jones; rather those brothers and sisters who have followed them without thinking with the brain that God has given them.
Institutions of higher learning have always taken pride in ones ability to think. The motto of the Black Colleges is; "A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Waste". I believe that many in today's church have not only allowed these charlatans to walk into their sanctuaries, but they have started a new group of practitioners that have no mercy as they spread their wares out for the unsuspecting church to choose and pick.

Question # 4 Please tell me, what was wrong with the old way of doing Christianity? You see my friend, when the Saint is called to trust and obey, for there is no other way, God is the one totally in control. There is no need for us to look within ourselves. We already understand what the scriptures says about that area in the first place; Isaiah 64:6 "But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away." I think that one clearly sees what God's estimate is of human ingenuity. I do not believe that the Lord is putting us down as He is seeking to communicate the limits of humans to accomplish anything of value without His Divine intervention or involvement in that human experience.

Lets look further into the matter; Isaiah 55:7 "let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the LORD, that he may have mercy on him, and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
The Lord does not stop there; please look further and see the word of the Lord: Isaiah 55:8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says the LORD. We need to come back to the bible. It is plain and simple. If most of the Believers that watch Jakes and Jones knew their bibles, they would never follow such madness. By the use of these texts, I have defeated "New Age Inner Works" philosophy. God has spoken, I will not listen to Jakes and Jones as they continue to delude Christian thought by the use of their strange new theories.

I would also pray that many of you leaders that claim to be led by God study just a bit more. The Pastor has the obligation to protect the flock by means of their personal study and research as they prove what is true or what is false. This responsibility rest on the shoulders of the Biblical Pastors. The time has past when the local Pastor acts as just a cheerleader in the worship service. He must take on the whole armor of God; Ephesians 6:11; "Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." Christian, we are engaged in a fight as we come into the new millennium.

I have said before and I shall repeat myself; if you are not serious concerning the Christian Pastorate get out of it. The song goes like this if I remember it correctly; Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war! With the cross of Jesus marching on before! Lets get on the offense this time.
  Do not wait until it is too late! Don't allow the Jakes and Jones of this world to sweep under foot all of the truths that God has given to His beloved church. Never allow these so called Bishops to represent you with false words. The Lord strictly warns the church about all such behavior; See; 2nd Peter 5:8
"Be sober, be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking some one to devour." The writer goes on and share just a little more with us in terms of what we need to know about the world that we live in; See; 2nd Peter 2:1 "But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction."  You know, I just thought about something, why don't you ever hear these teachers teach from this text? Want to know why? Right, you figured it out. They know who they are, they are just hoping that you don't find out.

For this reason Into The Word Ministries is operational. I am praying that many of you that have been caught in the grips of false teaching by this devilish doctrine of so called prosperity will come back to the sound firm teachings of the Holy Scriptures. If you are saved, you cannot continue to follow these false teachers. Please look at this next text; John 10:27 "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:" Is there any problem here? Jesus makes it plain, clear and to the point. He has people that only hear him. In John 8 Jesus speaks with a few of his contemporaries and questions their ability to here properly; See; John 8:31-51.
  These verses teach that many cannot understand even to the point of what they just heard. Who is the real church following in the first place? Note the following verses; John 10:16
"And other sheep I have which are not of this fold: them also I must bring and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."  Jesus speaks of a group of individuals that will continue to listen to Him as he speaks through the blessed word of God. We are fully cautioned not to listen to that deep inner self. This is madness for those that profess to be Saints. Come to it Brothers and Sisters, Jakes and Jones got "their thing going on" and it is not biblical Christianity.

I'll say it, it does not matter to me. I have been called by God to give a hard message. These words are not difficult for me to express. We need to come to a state of mind in which our minds are under the control of biblical precepts. We constantly need to listen to Jesus; see John 10:5 "And a stranger will they not follow but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers." Come on now my Christian friends, I love you enough to ask of you this one thing. Weigh the words of these false teachers. Think before you give in to their devilish words. Never, I repeat, never be caught up in what you see them dress in, where they live, how much money they have. Beware of the Creflo Dollars out there posing as ministers of the good news.

Use the God given brain that He has given you. Never look deep inside yourself for some gift that you might boast about. What a joke, Jesus saved me from me didn't He? I do not have the need to look deep within myself to find the good in me. Let me leave you with one more scripture. I can only pray that you allow God's word, and not mine to influence you as you conclude reading this article. See these three verses; Hebrews 12:5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: The Lord is rebuking those of us that forsake His word. It is easy to listen to Jakes and Jones, it is more difficult to listen to the word of God.

Hebrews 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?  If you allow the Lord to do what he desires to do with your life, your life will produce a corresponding Christian absolutism that must be displayed on a day to day basis. We are not to get caught up into this mind set that so many Saints have followed for the past twenty years.

Hebrews 12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. This verse ask you to analyze not only how you feel about me, It also does not ask how you feel about the word of he Lord. It does demand of you an obedience response as you decide today whom you will believe. These are serious questions. Each must be answered by you from the depths of your heart.
John E. Coleman

Sr. Teacher Into The Word Ministries / Anselm Bible Fellowship
M. A. Pastoral Ministries Talbot Theological Seminary La Mirada, CA. 1990
B. A. Philosophy Cal State University Dominguez Hills, Carson, CA. 1986
A. A. Supervision & Management ELAJC Los Angeles, CA. 1976

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